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Starter types feedback by Adam Carter (#66)
Adam has also looked at the starter types and provided some great additional comments. This adds them.
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@@ -34,10 +34,10 @@ starter has half the flour as water.
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You can change your starter type by just adjusting the feeding ratio of how
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much flour and water you use. I frequently changed my starter type from
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much flour and water you use. I frequently change my starter type from
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regular to liquid and then back to a stiff starter. After changing the
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environment of your microbes, apply feedings at the same ratio over a couple of
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days so that they can adapt to the new environment. I could already see
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days so that they can adapt to the new environment. I typically see
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changes after a single feeding, but I recommend 2 to 3 feedings, one feeding per
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day, to see a stronger effect.
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@@ -79,24 +79,24 @@ The regular sourdough starter is made at a hydration of around 100 percent.
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This means the starter has equal parts of flour and water. This is the most
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common and must universal sourdough starter there is. The starter has a good
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balance of yeast and bacteria. After a feeding, the volume increases and
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increases. After it reached a certain peak, it will start to collapse again.
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increases. After it reaches a certain peak, it will start to collapse again.
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The best way to judge whether the starter is ready is to look at signs such as
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pockets on the edges of your container. Also use the nose to to evaluate the
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air pockets on the edges of your container. Also use the nose to evaluate the
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smell of your starter. If you feel that the starter doesn't perform in a
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desirable way, chances are that your yeast and bacteria ratios are off. In that
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case frequent daily feedings using a 1:5:5 (starter:flour:water) ratio will
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help.
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The starter is perfect to use when utilizing stronger wheat or spelt flours.
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A regular starter is a perfect choice to use when utilizing stronger wheat or spelt flours.
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It also nicely works with rye, emmer or einkorn. If you only have a weak flour
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at hand with less gluten, this starter might cause issues. As you tend to have
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quite some bacterial activity, gluten is going to be broken down fast. When
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using the starter, use around 1 to 20 percent starter based on the flour of your
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dough.
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Depending on the bacteria cultivated, your starter either has a lactic (dairy),
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a vinegary (acetic) or mix of both flavor profile. You can adjust your
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Depending on the bacteria cultivated, a regular starter either has a lactic (dairy),
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a vinegary (acetic) or mix of both flavor profiles. You can adjust your
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starter's flavor by changing the type to a liquid starter.
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\section{Liquid starter}
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@@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ and I use 50 grams of starter, then I would proceed and only use 550 grams of
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water.
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This type of starter is also an excellent mold combatant. As you are removing
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oxygen from the equation aerobic mold can not properly grow. If your starter
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oxygen from the equation, aerobic mold can not properly grow. If your starter
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has a mold problem then the liquid conversion could be the remedy. Take a
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piece of your starter where you suspect no mold growth. Apply the conversion
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as mentioned before. The mold will likely sporulate as it runs out of food.
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@@ -205,7 +205,7 @@ are preferred (SOURCE NEEDED). When following recipes from other bakers, I
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could never achieve similar results. When following timings my doughs would
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simply collapse and become super sticky. Only when I started to buy more
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expensive wheat flour did my results start to change. As not everyone can afford
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these special baking flours and due their limited availability, I stumbled upon the
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these special baking flours and due to their limited availability, I stumbled upon the
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stiff sourdough starter. I made several tests where I used the same amount of
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starter and flour. I only changed the hydration between all the starters. I
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would then proceed and place a balloon on top of each of the jars. The stiff
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@@ -229,22 +229,22 @@ very mild. I am still yet to find a proper explanation why the yeast part of
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the dough is more active. Maybe it is not. It could also be that the bacteria
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is inhibited by the lack of water.
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When making the stiff sourdough starter, start with using around 50 percent
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When making the stiff sourdough starter, start by using around 50 percent
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water. If you are using a whole wheat flour, or a strong flour consider going
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up to 60 percent. All the ingredients should mix together very well. There
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should be no crumbly flour left. This is a common mistake I have seen when
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people tried to make the stiff starter. Yes it should be dry, but not to a
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point where it is a brick of cement. If you have ever made a pasta dough, this is
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exactly the same way the stiff starter should feel.
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point where it is a brick of cement. If you have ever made a pasta dough, this
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dough should exactly feel the same.
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To evaluate whether your stiff starter is ready, look for a dome. Also look for
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pockets of air on the edges of your container. Use your nose to smell the
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pockets of air on the sides of your container. Use your nose to smell the
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starter. It should have a mild smell. It also tends to smell much more
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alcoholic than the other starters.
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When using the starter, use around 1 to 20 percent depending on the ripeness of
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your starter. In summer times I typically use around 10 percent and in winter
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times around 20 percent. This way you can also control the fermentation speed.
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When using a stiff starter, use around 1 to 20 percent depending on the ripeness of
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your starter. In summer I typically use around 10 percent and in winter
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around 20 percent. This way you can also control the fermentation speed.
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Mixing the starter can be a little bit annoying as it hardly homogenizes with
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the rest of the dough. In this case you can try to dissolve the starter in the
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water you are about to use for your dough. This will make mixing a lot easier.
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@@ -254,11 +254,11 @@ water you are about to use for your dough. This will make mixing a lot easier.
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The lievito madre, also known as pasta madre, belongs to the same category as
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the stiff sourdough starter. After conducting hours of research, I could not
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find a difference in pasta madre and lievito madre. Both of terms seem to be
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find a difference in pasta madre and lievito madre. Both terms seem to be
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used interchangeably in literature.
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In many recipes this starter is made directly
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from dried or fresh fruits. You can make a starter also from leaves from your
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from dried or fresh fruits. You can also make a starter from leaves from your
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garden. As described before, the wild yeast and bacteria consume the glucose
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from the plants' leaves. All the options work. When making a starter directly
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from dried fruits, you sometimes lack the bacterial part of the fermentation.
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@@ -283,11 +283,11 @@ This makes the baker feel a little more elitist. Of course over time as
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more and more people follow this procedure, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
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The more experienced you become, the higher the chances are that a bogus starter
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feeding guide will reward you with beautiful results. The reason however is
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not in the starter routine. The reason is that you better understand the fermentation
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not in the starter routine. The reason is that you understand the fermentation better
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and become better at reading the signs of your dough.
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If I had one starter type to choose, I would go for the stiff starter. In many cases
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it will provide you with consistent great results with little effort.
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If I had to choose one starter type I would go for the stiff starter. In many cases
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it will provide you with consistently great results with little effort.
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In my experience you can make any yeast-based dough and just replace
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the yeast directly with the stiff sourdough starter. You will be able
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to achieve even better results with the stiff starter.
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